Concerts of Geographical Expansion.

debateOprettet af Jacob Pertou man, december 10, 2012 21:08

In a line of new initiatives to give my blog new character comes a section called 'debate'. In this section I will bring up topics that relates to Tangerine Dream, and should be opinionated enough to release some contrary opinions.

First topic is the frequency of and geographical placement of Tangerine Dream concerts.

I used to say that if TD can't come to the fans, the fans must come to TD. But in the long run, that's just absurd. Otherwise, we would only have concerts in London. Or Vienna, if Edgar wouldn't get on a plane. Also only local residents or followers with an unhealthy relationship to money could attend.

I know Edgar is in his late sixties, has a reputation to care about, but why does TD concerts always have to be so show orientated? If septuagenarian Hans-Joachim Roedelius and über-influential Cluster can play in Denmark several times, turn a few knobs on some hardware easily carried in the hand baggage, and still make big art, aren't Tangerine Dream taking a distance to their followers, by the way they make concerts?

The Electric Mandarine Tour was an artistic success, but a full live band doesn't necessarily fill the sound image more, than a table full of gadgets and modules. It worked for Michael Rother in Malmö when he re-launched the spirit of NEU! with a drummer and bassist.

I think TD still suffers from the eighties philosophy that demands big light show, loads of equipment and an overall too expensive concert fee, that smaller, but interested, festivals can't in their wildest imaginations live up to. They have reduced, since then, but are still not adequate with the times.

A poorly promoted headliner tour with high ticket prices resulted in poorly attended shows in the states this summer. TD plays safe in London, Berlin and, well that's about it. I see a regular amount of the same faces at every concert. I think TD should seek new ground, new formats of live concerts in order to boost a stagnating fan base. Once youngsters get into TD, it's always because they've listened Phaedra or Rubycon, not because they (accidentally) witnessed them at a concert.

The all laptop way is not advisable, but having six or eight keyboards each, only played a little along to a backing track, could be scaled down drastically. A basic light show is often enough, and the legacy of TD's music always says it all.

It is too bad that TD puts so much energy in the three hour hit parade, and that is the only way they choose to perform. Financially it is too much of a risk to book the ensemble, which is why so few people do it. Hans-Joachim Roedelius performed in Denmark this indian summer, and his legacy is just as important. Tangerine Dream has to this day, still not performed in Scandinavia!

Improvisation is overrated, and the seventies won't come back, but TD should reach out for their existing and coming fans a bit more enthusiastically. World wide.

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Oprettet af Jacob Pertou tor, december 27, 2012 22:00

Gode pointer, Thomas!

Oprettet af Thomas lør, december 22, 2012 11:24

I actually like that the concerts are events. Unlike scorpion, who would not want to walk ten minutes down the road to see TD (no matter how unbelievable that is!), I have traveled twice to Germany and once to England in the past four years, only to see TD. It would be great to see TD in a more intimate setting, playing in smaller clubs, in seldom or never before visited cities. But travelling to one TD concert each year (or almost each year) is a nice thing to do, and always a big event for me.

I've seen two great concert halls in Europe, and one spectacular festival area (Loreley) because of TD (Schulze was also important for my decision to go to Loreley, and the place itself is so nice, that I traveled back there this summer for the Night of the Prog festival. I will also go there next year, for all the great bands that are playing there).

Back to TD; I would rather travel to a city with enough fans to fill (or almost fill) a nice concert hall, than see them in Oslo (f.ex.), playing for 50 people. That would be miserable. I can not believe there are much more fans than that in this city. Unfortunately.

Oprettet af Jacob Pertou ons, december 12, 2012 21:33

Excellent comment! Thank you.

The 'X-Factor' or 'Who Wants to Be A Millionaire is hilarious.

Oprettet af scorpion tir, december 11, 2012 22:35

There's probably all sorts of factors that determine whether a concert would be economically worthwhile in certain locations. Tax, health and safety, labour, insurance, promoters etc, so I feel a little out of my depth. Mind you, I would have thought Froese would have been fascinated by the idea of performing in a European region that hasn't played host to a TD concert before.It's true that things can be scaled down, and sometimes in so doing can release more creativity. I'm personally not keen on what I see of the light shows of modern day TD (but maybe the videos don't do them justice). Lots of blazing, fast moving spans of magenta and ultramarine - looking more like episodes of 'X-Factor' or 'Who Wants to Be A Millionaire'. I preferred the early subtle atmospheric light shows which seemed less OTT and more mood enhancing. However that was a different Tangerine Dream. I'm afraid I wouldn't walk ten minutes down the road to see a free show by the current line-up - I just don't connect with the band anymore. Luckily I still find new things in their old compositions, even after all these years and other artists are still pursuing the Berlin School movement, so plenty to enjoy.It would certainly be interesting to know the gig criteria which decides where one location would be settled on and another passed by. Maybe Froese gets offers/incentives from UK, Germany and USA that don't appear from other countries?